The Frederick Haldimand discussion

SIX NATIONS — Last week we published an article asking the question if Sir Frederick Haldimand we in fact a friend of Six Nations or a foe. We received responses and opened lively discussion amongst our readers, which was quite educational indeed.

For those that missed it, the entire article is on our website at tworowtimes.com. Our research has shown Haldimand to have been an honest man, who although employed by the British Crown was not British at all but rather Swiss. He did not seem to have the same attitude towards agreements with indigenous nations of North America as the Crown did. Britain seems to have believed these agreements and treaties were put in place until the Crown did not need the help and protection of the Six Nations and were disposable when no longer useful. Haldimand did not.

The following represents what you, our readers think about Haldimand and his agreement with Joseph Brant on behalf of the Mohawks and such others of the Six Nations who wished to give up their land in the new USA and accept the Haldimand Deed as recompense for war losses.

Haldimand died in 1791 after completing the Haldimand Deed in 1784 on behalf of King George III of England. His true intentions have been questioned ever since.

Comments from Facebook:

Curtis Ellis Hill – Why would you want negativity on the man. He help manifest “The Haldimand Proclamation” and is the only king’s creed that has relevancy with the lands and monies stolen from our people. We have had many discussions on this and after reviewing each definition it was agreed the Haldimand is a proclamation (a kings creed), a treaty and a deed are the lesser of the above and each of these need a signature of both parties, Jim has seen the Haldimand with his own eyes there are no signatures on it only a kings seal. Question why would the royal family have their own copy of this proclamation? So I and some others agree that the Haldimand is a proclamation.

Gawaowene Kawalowene – He helped with the genocide or assimilation by acting like Canada had land here to give us and put us under the crown but we know they had no land to give us. It is and always be our hunting lands and are not subject to (the) crown. And that part about the Mohawk and such others? What the heck is that? Goes against the Great Peace of being equal. Maybe it should be the Cayuga and such others. When it should have been taught Haudenosaunni to keep things equal. Not the Mohawks and such others. This generation has a lot to correct.

Skyler Williams – I love it. Lands being raped and pillaged on a scale never before seen. New federal legislation making its way in. And what we are arguing about is why some old dead white guy wrote Mohawk instead of Haudenosaunee. Hilarious. Unity people. Unity.

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